I Audited My Freebies—Here’s What I Found
Ever wondered if your freebies are helping people buy—or just taking up digital space? In this episode, I’m sharing how a single podcast (shoutout to Jenn Green!) made me rethink everything I’ve ever created. I ran my freebies through her mini/medium/large framework, pulled in ChatGPT to help, and uncovered a few surprising gaps—and a lot of hidden potential.
If you’ve got a few too many opt-ins floating around… this one’s for you.
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[00:00] Something strange started happening with my freebies… 👀
[01:07] What does it really mean when someone downloads three freebies at once?
[01:56] Did my “everything” page work a little too well?
[02:43] Multiple freebies, multiple formats… but where’s the journey?
[03:51] A single podcast episode flipped how I think about every freebie I’ve made
[05:18] Do you have a strategy beyond opt-ins?
[05:46] So I fed ChatGPT the podcast transcript and said: analyze this for me
[06:57] The moment I realized I wasn’t repurposing my best content
[07:58] When AI told me I had no large lead magnets 😅
[08:39] What actually is a high-value freebie?
[10:09] Can a 20-minute video be considered “in-depth”?
[10:53] Spoiler: I don’t want to teach anything for 90 minutes
[12:41] Revisiting my “email guide” freebie
[13:29] Will turning one training into two formats = a better experience?
[14:48] My new non-negotiable: every freebie must lead to a win
[15:35] Want to clean up your own freebie graveyard? Start here
[16:23] It’s not about more content. It’s about making it all work together
Mentioned in this Episode
Systems Saved Me Podcast (Guest Host Jenn Green)
Transcript
Hello, hello, and welcome back to another solo episode
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:on Business First Creatives.
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:So a couple weeks ago, maybe a month
ago, I noticed something weird in my
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:email marketing program, which I use Kit.
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:And while it's a little difficult in kit
to see who is enrolling or subscribing
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:for which freebie, I have all of that
information fed into my client hub
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:inside of Airtable to give me the
bigger picture of who is coming into
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:my email list, what freebies they are
signing up for, and then eventually do
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:they end up becoming a paid customer.
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:So I've been watching this because I love
to make data-driven decisions about my
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:business, but when I noticed recently that
when someone signed up for my email list
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:for, let's say, the workflows freebie.
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:Within 10 minutes, they were
typically signing up for at least
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:one or two additional freebies.
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:Now the truth is I have an
inkling of how this was happening.
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:Um, about a month and a half
ago, I created a new everything
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:page where everything that
I offer from free resources.
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:To paid templates to my signature course,
the CRM blueprint, and also the two ways
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:that you can currently work one-on-one
with me, which is a client experience
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:audit or a 60 minute strategy call
once I put all of those on one page.
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:I realized it became easier for
people to find all of my freebies
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:in one place, and so they were
treating it like a smorgasborg.
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:I mean, they were downloading so
many freebies, and my freebies cover
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:a very wide range of topics, and I
also have them in different formats.
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:Some of my freebies are in a 20 minute.
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:Video training format, while
others might be a private podcast.
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:I have a couple of quizzes.
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:I have some checklists.
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:I have some PDF download guides.
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:I mean, I have a very wide variety
of freebies, but what I realized
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:when I saw that all these people
were downloading multiple freebies
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:is I felt a little confused.
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:By their customer journey, because should
I be trying to optimize the fact that
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:people are downloading more than one
freebie at a time, and is there a way that
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:I could kind of put these in front of them
to make a more meaningful path from them?
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:Okay, so that's my first observation.
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:The second thing that happened is
I was listening to an episode of
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:System Save Me from Jordan Gill.
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:In case you are unaware or you did not
know, Jordan Gill used to run a program
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:for how to create VIP days in your
business, which I was a student of.
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:And then I also hired Jordan for
strategy Saved Me, which was her
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:quarterly one-to-one coaching program.
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:So I mean, I listen to everything
and anything that Jordan puts out,
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:but more recently she has stopped.
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:Recording podcast for her podcast.
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:She is allowing other business owners
to record two episodes that kind of
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:lead you into whatever their offers are.
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:I mean, it's like a visibility activity,
and one of those people was Jenn Green.
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:Now Jenn is an email marketer.
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:She is someone that I have met twice
now at Jordan's in-person events.
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:Love Jenn.
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:Love everything that she says.
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:I don't know why.
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:Listening to her on this particular
podcast episode just made me think
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:about all the freebies that I've ever
created in a completely different way.
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:So on this episode of System Saved Me,
Jenn was talking about her idea of where
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:everyone needs differentiated freebies,
and you can classify them as a mini.
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:A medium or a large freebie, and
immediately my brain starts going to
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:Starbucks, like tall grande, venti.
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:I mean, I honestly wanted to change
her framework and redo it that way,
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:but I mean, that would be rude.
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:Right?
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:But I was curious, and with this
curiosity came, okay, I should really
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:go through all of these freebies that
are available out in the world that I've
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:put out there, and I should figure out.
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:If I in fact have a wide variety,
like how many of my freebies would be
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:minis, how many would be mediums, how
many would be large, and then it got
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:me thinking about even bigger picture
questions like, does one freebie lead
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:into a second freebie more easily
than they would if they were reversed?
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:Does one particular path lead to sales?
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:More often than another path.
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:So I mean, I took her framework and
I was like, oh my gosh, how many
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:different directions can I go in?
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:And then this week I got the idea
of asking ChatGPT to help me do it.
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:So that is what I wanna
talk to you about today.
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:I wanna talk to you about what I did.
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:When I made this observation and then
listened to this guest episode on someone
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:else's podcast, and how it has made me
completely rethink and repurpose some
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:of the freebies that I already have.
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:So the first thing that I did was I went
and got a transcript of that guest host
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:episode from Jenn Green on System Save
Me Podcast, and I fed it into ChatGPT
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:and I said, listen, this is an episode
that I am absolutely obsessed with.
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:I love her framework, and you already know
a lot about my freebies and my offers.
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:So just so that you know, I have been
taking recordings and transcripts of
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:previously recorded video trainings,
and I have been feeding it into ChatGPT
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:to ask for help in repurposing that
content into new solo podcast episodes.
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:Um, new blog posts.
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:New evergreen emails.
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:I have been repurposing that
content because I create a
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:lot of free training videos,
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:. I do it inside of summits.
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:I do it inside of private Facebook groups.
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:Anybody that wants me to come and talk
about systems, I mostly say yes, and
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:every single one of those presentations
is absolutely packed with value and
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:always has actionable steps for people
to do afterwards and I don't wanna
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:spoil the rest of this episode, but
I was not taking those free video
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:trainings and saying, Hey, let's create
a new freebie in a different format.
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:Let's take this content, these ideas,
and turn it into a downloadable PDF.
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:But that is where I ended up going.
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:So fed it that episode so that it could
get the framework and analyze it for me.
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:And then I put in every single
freebie that initially came
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:to mind that are currently
actively available on my website.
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:Then I said, ChatGPT, please
use this framework to analyze my
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:freebies and tell me what I already
have, and it spit out a table.
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:And I will say I was absolutely
fascinated because ChatGPT didn't
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:think that I had any large freebies.
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:Now I should tell you what Jenn's
framework is so that you know,
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:a mini freebie is something
that has a very low commitment.
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:It's a checklist.
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:It's a quiz.
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:It's something that a cold lead
can consume quickly, and it might
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:give them a very quick, small win.
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:A medium freebie is something
that's a little bit more in depth.
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:Think short trainings, multi-page
guides, and things that require
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:a little bit more engagement.
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:And then large freebies are a high
value experience, a challenge,
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:a masterclass, a video series.
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:They're perfect for warmer leads
that are on the edge of buying, and
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:they just need a little pushover.
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:Now, I honestly thought I had
mostly large freebies and no minis.
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:And so when ChatGPT spit this table out.
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:My first inclination was,
um, okay, no, you're wrong.
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:I don't agree with how
you've analyzed my stuff.
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:And it turns out that I was
adamant about that for good reason.
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:So then I said, Hey, ChatGPT, can
you suggest a few large freebies that
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:would align with the freebies that
I already have, but also push people
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:to particular offers that you already
know that I am currently selling.
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:This is where it got really interesting.
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:One of the ones that it suggested
to me was that I create a video
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:training that walked people through
the process of automating their
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:workflows from inquiry to delivery.
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:I.
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:I was like, uh, wait, hold on.
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:Hold on.
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:ChatGPT I have two trainings that
actually do that, and you have
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:the transcript of one of them.
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:I said, please reanalyze this
transcript and tell me why you
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:decided it was not a large freebie.
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:Well, chat, GPT went
through it and it said okay.
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:I initially categorized it as a medium
training because of the length of time.
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:But you are right.
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:It hits all of the other markers
of being a large freebie.
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:And so I thought to myself,
well, that's interesting.
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:Because it was thinking that anything
that was at about the 20 minute
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:mark for a video training wasn't
in depth enough to be considered.
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:Large and large trainings were something
from like 45 minutes to 90 minutes.
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:Now I feel like that's very outdated.
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:I feel like I would never.
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:Put a free training out
there that was 90 minutes.
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:I don't wanna hear myself talk
about anything that I'm offering
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:for 90 minutes, and I'm sure that
you don't wanna hear it either.
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:I mean, these podcast episodes,
I'm pushing it to 45 minutes, maybe
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:60 minutes when I have a guest.
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:But when it's just me.
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:Talking at you y'all.
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:My limit is like 15 minutes.
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:And for the video trainings,
they're a little longer because
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:I have slides to go with them.
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:But I think that 20 minutes for me
and my teaching style is perfectly
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:adequate to bring somebody from
curious to perhaps ready to buy.
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:So then I asked it to kind of reframe
how it was categorizing mini, medium,
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:and large based on my beliefs of what
it takes, particularly in a video
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:training to get somebody over the edge.
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:So it agreed, and my workflow magic
training was now labeled as large.
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:Then it also suggested to me that
I might want to try a free three
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:day challenge, and it gave me some
things and I said, wait, hold on.
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:ChatGPT.
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:I already have that and
I told you that I had it.
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:And I said, but you know what?
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:You didn't have the
transcripts from the videos.
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:All you had was like the landing page.
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:So then I fed it all the information
and it read it and it goes, oh no,
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:that's exactly what I was suggesting.
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:Okay, so you do have a large training.
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:So as we went piece by piece, I realized
I really did have the variety that I
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:was seeking inside of my freebies, but
then it made me think, so if I have a
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:mini freebie where it's a checklist,
or in my case, let's talk about emails.
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:'cause emails are the ones that
I've actually done most recently.
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:I have an email guide that you can get.
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:Well, it's not available anymore
because as part of this process,
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:I have now taken that away.
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:But let me tell you what it was.
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:It was 10 emails that I think every
photographer should create a template
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:for in their business to save time.
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:I didn't give you the templates because
I sell templates, but I did give you
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:what each of the emails was, whether
or not I thought it should be automated
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:or sent manually and customized.
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:And then I also gave you
like what should be included.
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:I mean, I didn't write the email for
you, but I told you the bullet points
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:of what you should include in there.
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:I did that for all 10
emails plus one bonus email.
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:And what I realized is that I already
had this 40 minute video training
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:that I had done in someone's private
Facebook group, that covered how
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:to craft creative client experience
emails and what should go in each one.
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:Like what is essential to go in
every single one of these emails.
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:Okay?
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:So I had this 40 minute
training, but I was like.
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:You know, the 10 email templates
to write is directly related
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:to this 40 minute training, but
they are not perfectly aligned.
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:And I thought to myself, well, why don't
I just have somebody opt in for an email
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:freebie, and then I give them the choice?
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:So what I ended up creating is this new
guide, an implementation guide, which is
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:going to walk you through my framework
for the three essential pieces that you
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:need to include in every single client
experience email template that you write.
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:And then I walked you through
the process of writing the
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:three most important emails.
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:Now, it can stand alone.
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:You do not have to watch the video
in order to get value from the PDF,
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:but now the PDF is directly related
to the video, so that if I put you on
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:a delivery page and I have the video
there and you don't have time for a
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:40 minute training, you can download
the PDF, run through it, and then if
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:you're like, oh my God, this is amazing.
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:Like this sounds great.
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:I wanna hear about the whole framework
and the rest of it, that's when you
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:can go watch the 40 minute video.
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:So it really has made me
rethink what my freebies are.
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:What I really want you to walk away from
the freebies with, because I want every
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:single thing that you get from me, whether
it is free or paid, to be valuable.
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:I never wanna waste your time.
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:At the end of consuming whatever it is.
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:I want you to be able to
create or finish something.
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:I'm a big believer in micro wins.
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:I want everybody to have micro
wins from every single piece
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:of content that I create.
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:That is my new goal for 2025 and beyond.
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:And so I didn't really imagine that
this was where I was going to go
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:after looking inside of Airtable in
my Client Hub to see what freebies
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:people were downloading and then to
listen to this one podcast episode.
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:So if this sounds interesting to you and
you're like, oh my gosh, I have a bunch
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:of freebies, I wanna do this for myself.
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:Here's how you start.
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:Write down every single
freebie in your business.
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:Yes, and then I want you to
identify what kind of freebie it is.
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:Like what's the medium?
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:Is it a video training?
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:Is it a checklist?
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:Is it a quiz?
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:If you really like what I've said
about Jenn's framework, I am going to
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:list that episode in the show notes.
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:Please go listen to it.
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:It was amazing and awesome.
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:I mean, I think I listened
to it three times.
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:At the end of creating this list of your
freebies, I want you to figure out how
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:they are all related to each other and
how they are directly related to the
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:offers that you sell inside your business.
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:And then if you need to make
changes, ChatGPT to the rescue.
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:Okay.
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:I really hope that you have found this
interesting and that it has provoked
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:your curiosity about the freebies and
perhaps the free trainings that you've
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:done at some point that you've never
quite made publicly available as freebies.
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:I hope that this has given you some
insight in how I use this to basically
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:run through, organize, and start to
repurpose some of these trainings
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:that I have, and I hope that you are
able to do the same in your business.
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:Alright, that's it for this episode.
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:See you next time.