Episode 199

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1st Apr 2025

I Audited My Freebies—Here’s What I Found

Ever wondered if your freebies are helping people buy—or just taking up digital space? In this episode, I’m sharing how a single podcast (shoutout to Jenn Green!) made me rethink everything I’ve ever created. I ran my freebies through her mini/medium/large framework, pulled in ChatGPT to help, and uncovered a few surprising gaps—and a lot of hidden potential.

If you’ve got a few too many opt-ins floating around… this one’s for you.

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[00:00] Something strange started happening with my freebies… 👀

[01:07] What does it really mean when someone downloads three freebies at once?

[01:56] Did my “everything” page work a little too well?

[02:43] Multiple freebies, multiple formats… but where’s the journey?

[03:51] A single podcast episode flipped how I think about every freebie I’ve made

[05:18] Do you have a strategy beyond opt-ins?

[05:46] So I fed ChatGPT the podcast transcript and said: analyze this for me

[06:57] The moment I realized I wasn’t repurposing my best content

[07:58] When AI told me I had no large lead magnets 😅

[08:39] What actually is a high-value freebie?

[10:09] Can a 20-minute video be considered “in-depth”?

[10:53] Spoiler: I don’t want to teach anything for 90 minutes

[12:41] Revisiting my “email guide” freebie

[13:29] Will turning one training into two formats = a better experience?

[14:48] My new non-negotiable: every freebie must lead to a win

[15:35] Want to clean up your own freebie graveyard? Start here

[16:23] It’s not about more content. It’s about making it all work together

Mentioned in this Episode

My Everything Page

Client Hub for Airtable

Content Hub for Airtable

Workflow Magic

Systems Saved Me Podcast (Guest Host Jenn Green)

Transcript
Colie:

Hello, hello, and welcome back to another solo episode

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on Business First Creatives.

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So a couple weeks ago, maybe a month

ago, I noticed something weird in my

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email marketing program, which I use Kit.

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And while it's a little difficult in kit

to see who is enrolling or subscribing

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for which freebie, I have all of that

information fed into my client hub

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inside of Airtable to give me the

bigger picture of who is coming into

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my email list, what freebies they are

signing up for, and then eventually do

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they end up becoming a paid customer.

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So I've been watching this because I love

to make data-driven decisions about my

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business, but when I noticed recently that

when someone signed up for my email list

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for, let's say, the workflows freebie.

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Within 10 minutes, they were

typically signing up for at least

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one or two additional freebies.

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Now the truth is I have an

inkling of how this was happening.

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Um, about a month and a half

ago, I created a new everything

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page where everything that

I offer from free resources.

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To paid templates to my signature course,

the CRM blueprint, and also the two ways

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that you can currently work one-on-one

with me, which is a client experience

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audit or a 60 minute strategy call

once I put all of those on one page.

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I realized it became easier for

people to find all of my freebies

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in one place, and so they were

treating it like a smorgasborg.

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I mean, they were downloading so

many freebies, and my freebies cover

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a very wide range of topics, and I

also have them in different formats.

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Some of my freebies are in a 20 minute.

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Video training format, while

others might be a private podcast.

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I have a couple of quizzes.

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I have some checklists.

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I have some PDF download guides.

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I mean, I have a very wide variety

of freebies, but what I realized

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when I saw that all these people

were downloading multiple freebies

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is I felt a little confused.

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By their customer journey, because should

I be trying to optimize the fact that

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people are downloading more than one

freebie at a time, and is there a way that

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I could kind of put these in front of them

to make a more meaningful path from them?

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Okay, so that's my first observation.

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The second thing that happened is

I was listening to an episode of

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System Save Me from Jordan Gill.

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In case you are unaware or you did not

know, Jordan Gill used to run a program

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for how to create VIP days in your

business, which I was a student of.

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And then I also hired Jordan for

strategy Saved Me, which was her

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quarterly one-to-one coaching program.

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So I mean, I listen to everything

and anything that Jordan puts out,

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but more recently she has stopped.

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Recording podcast for her podcast.

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She is allowing other business owners

to record two episodes that kind of

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lead you into whatever their offers are.

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I mean, it's like a visibility activity,

and one of those people was Jenn Green.

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Now Jenn is an email marketer.

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She is someone that I have met twice

now at Jordan's in-person events.

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Love Jenn.

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Love everything that she says.

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I don't know why.

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Listening to her on this particular

podcast episode just made me think

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about all the freebies that I've ever

created in a completely different way.

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So on this episode of System Saved Me,

Jenn was talking about her idea of where

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everyone needs differentiated freebies,

and you can classify them as a mini.

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A medium or a large freebie, and

immediately my brain starts going to

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Starbucks, like tall grande, venti.

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I mean, I honestly wanted to change

her framework and redo it that way,

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but I mean, that would be rude.

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Right?

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But I was curious, and with this

curiosity came, okay, I should really

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go through all of these freebies that

are available out in the world that I've

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put out there, and I should figure out.

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If I in fact have a wide variety,

like how many of my freebies would be

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minis, how many would be mediums, how

many would be large, and then it got

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me thinking about even bigger picture

questions like, does one freebie lead

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into a second freebie more easily

than they would if they were reversed?

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Does one particular path lead to sales?

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More often than another path.

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So I mean, I took her framework and

I was like, oh my gosh, how many

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different directions can I go in?

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And then this week I got the idea

of asking ChatGPT to help me do it.

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So that is what I wanna

talk to you about today.

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I wanna talk to you about what I did.

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When I made this observation and then

listened to this guest episode on someone

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else's podcast, and how it has made me

completely rethink and repurpose some

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of the freebies that I already have.

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So the first thing that I did was I went

and got a transcript of that guest host

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episode from Jenn Green on System Save

Me Podcast, and I fed it into ChatGPT

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and I said, listen, this is an episode

that I am absolutely obsessed with.

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I love her framework, and you already know

a lot about my freebies and my offers.

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So just so that you know, I have been

taking recordings and transcripts of

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previously recorded video trainings,

and I have been feeding it into ChatGPT

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to ask for help in repurposing that

content into new solo podcast episodes.

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Um, new blog posts.

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New evergreen emails.

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I have been repurposing that

content because I create a

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lot of free training videos,

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. I do it inside of summits.

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I do it inside of private Facebook groups.

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Anybody that wants me to come and talk

about systems, I mostly say yes, and

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every single one of those presentations

is absolutely packed with value and

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always has actionable steps for people

to do afterwards and I don't wanna

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spoil the rest of this episode, but

I was not taking those free video

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trainings and saying, Hey, let's create

a new freebie in a different format.

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Let's take this content, these ideas,

and turn it into a downloadable PDF.

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But that is where I ended up going.

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So fed it that episode so that it could

get the framework and analyze it for me.

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And then I put in every single

freebie that initially came

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to mind that are currently

actively available on my website.

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Then I said, ChatGPT, please

use this framework to analyze my

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freebies and tell me what I already

have, and it spit out a table.

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And I will say I was absolutely

fascinated because ChatGPT didn't

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think that I had any large freebies.

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Now I should tell you what Jenn's

framework is so that you know,

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a mini freebie is something

that has a very low commitment.

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It's a checklist.

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It's a quiz.

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It's something that a cold lead

can consume quickly, and it might

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give them a very quick, small win.

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A medium freebie is something

that's a little bit more in depth.

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Think short trainings, multi-page

guides, and things that require

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a little bit more engagement.

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And then large freebies are a high

value experience, a challenge,

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a masterclass, a video series.

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They're perfect for warmer leads

that are on the edge of buying, and

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they just need a little pushover.

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Now, I honestly thought I had

mostly large freebies and no minis.

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And so when ChatGPT spit this table out.

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My first inclination was,

um, okay, no, you're wrong.

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I don't agree with how

you've analyzed my stuff.

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And it turns out that I was

adamant about that for good reason.

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So then I said, Hey, ChatGPT, can

you suggest a few large freebies that

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would align with the freebies that

I already have, but also push people

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to particular offers that you already

know that I am currently selling.

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This is where it got really interesting.

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One of the ones that it suggested

to me was that I create a video

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training that walked people through

the process of automating their

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workflows from inquiry to delivery.

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I.

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I was like, uh, wait, hold on.

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Hold on.

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ChatGPT I have two trainings that

actually do that, and you have

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the transcript of one of them.

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I said, please reanalyze this

transcript and tell me why you

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decided it was not a large freebie.

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Well, chat, GPT went

through it and it said okay.

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I initially categorized it as a medium

training because of the length of time.

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But you are right.

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It hits all of the other markers

of being a large freebie.

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And so I thought to myself,

well, that's interesting.

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Because it was thinking that anything

that was at about the 20 minute

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mark for a video training wasn't

in depth enough to be considered.

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Large and large trainings were something

from like 45 minutes to 90 minutes.

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Now I feel like that's very outdated.

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I feel like I would never.

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Put a free training out

there that was 90 minutes.

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I don't wanna hear myself talk

about anything that I'm offering

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for 90 minutes, and I'm sure that

you don't wanna hear it either.

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I mean, these podcast episodes,

I'm pushing it to 45 minutes, maybe

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60 minutes when I have a guest.

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But when it's just me.

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Talking at you y'all.

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My limit is like 15 minutes.

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And for the video trainings,

they're a little longer because

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I have slides to go with them.

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But I think that 20 minutes for me

and my teaching style is perfectly

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adequate to bring somebody from

curious to perhaps ready to buy.

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So then I asked it to kind of reframe

how it was categorizing mini, medium,

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and large based on my beliefs of what

it takes, particularly in a video

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training to get somebody over the edge.

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So it agreed, and my workflow magic

training was now labeled as large.

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Then it also suggested to me that

I might want to try a free three

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day challenge, and it gave me some

things and I said, wait, hold on.

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ChatGPT.

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I already have that and

I told you that I had it.

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And I said, but you know what?

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You didn't have the

transcripts from the videos.

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All you had was like the landing page.

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So then I fed it all the information

and it read it and it goes, oh no,

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that's exactly what I was suggesting.

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Okay, so you do have a large training.

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So as we went piece by piece, I realized

I really did have the variety that I

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was seeking inside of my freebies, but

then it made me think, so if I have a

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mini freebie where it's a checklist,

or in my case, let's talk about emails.

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'cause emails are the ones that

I've actually done most recently.

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I have an email guide that you can get.

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Well, it's not available anymore

because as part of this process,

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I have now taken that away.

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But let me tell you what it was.

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It was 10 emails that I think every

photographer should create a template

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for in their business to save time.

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I didn't give you the templates because

I sell templates, but I did give you

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what each of the emails was, whether

or not I thought it should be automated

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or sent manually and customized.

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And then I also gave you

like what should be included.

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I mean, I didn't write the email for

you, but I told you the bullet points

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of what you should include in there.

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I did that for all 10

emails plus one bonus email.

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And what I realized is that I already

had this 40 minute video training

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that I had done in someone's private

Facebook group, that covered how

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to craft creative client experience

emails and what should go in each one.

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Like what is essential to go in

every single one of these emails.

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Okay?

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So I had this 40 minute

training, but I was like.

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You know, the 10 email templates

to write is directly related

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to this 40 minute training, but

they are not perfectly aligned.

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And I thought to myself, well, why don't

I just have somebody opt in for an email

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freebie, and then I give them the choice?

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So what I ended up creating is this new

guide, an implementation guide, which is

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going to walk you through my framework

for the three essential pieces that you

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need to include in every single client

experience email template that you write.

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And then I walked you through

the process of writing the

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three most important emails.

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Now, it can stand alone.

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You do not have to watch the video

in order to get value from the PDF,

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but now the PDF is directly related

to the video, so that if I put you on

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a delivery page and I have the video

there and you don't have time for a

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40 minute training, you can download

the PDF, run through it, and then if

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you're like, oh my God, this is amazing.

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Like this sounds great.

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I wanna hear about the whole framework

and the rest of it, that's when you

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can go watch the 40 minute video.

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So it really has made me

rethink what my freebies are.

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What I really want you to walk away from

the freebies with, because I want every

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single thing that you get from me, whether

it is free or paid, to be valuable.

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I never wanna waste your time.

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At the end of consuming whatever it is.

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I want you to be able to

create or finish something.

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I'm a big believer in micro wins.

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I want everybody to have micro

wins from every single piece

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of content that I create.

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That is my new goal for 2025 and beyond.

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And so I didn't really imagine that

this was where I was going to go

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after looking inside of Airtable in

my Client Hub to see what freebies

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people were downloading and then to

listen to this one podcast episode.

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So if this sounds interesting to you and

you're like, oh my gosh, I have a bunch

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of freebies, I wanna do this for myself.

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Here's how you start.

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Write down every single

freebie in your business.

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Yes, and then I want you to

identify what kind of freebie it is.

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Like what's the medium?

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Is it a video training?

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Is it a checklist?

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Is it a quiz?

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If you really like what I've said

about Jenn's framework, I am going to

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list that episode in the show notes.

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Please go listen to it.

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It was amazing and awesome.

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I mean, I think I listened

to it three times.

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At the end of creating this list of your

freebies, I want you to figure out how

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they are all related to each other and

how they are directly related to the

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offers that you sell inside your business.

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And then if you need to make

changes, ChatGPT to the rescue.

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Okay.

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I really hope that you have found this

interesting and that it has provoked

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your curiosity about the freebies and

perhaps the free trainings that you've

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done at some point that you've never

quite made publicly available as freebies.

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I hope that this has given you some

insight in how I use this to basically

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run through, organize, and start to

repurpose some of these trainings

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that I have, and I hope that you are

able to do the same in your business.

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Alright, that's it for this episode.

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See you next time.

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Business-First Creatives

Every creative deserves to turn their craft into a business that brings them joy and profit. Here you'll find a no-BS approach to what it takes to put the business first, prioritizing the systems and strategies that will actually move the needle and ensure your creative business is profitable rather than an expensive side-hustle. Your host is Colie James, a Disney-loving family photographer, and filmmaker turned Workflow and Automations Guru who helps creative service providers automate their sh*t, reclaim their time and get back to living!